一部让我看到金融危机给美国普通民众究竟带来多大灾难的电影。我想这部电影,导演想告诉我们的是:金融危机不是天灾,不是无法控制的灾难,而是由人性之贪婪引发的一场人祸。
有人批判导演的主观,有人批判这部电影是站在利益遭到损害的人的立场上说话,但我庆幸我这社会主义一名普通的民众能看到世界上最富有的国家里身处和我一样阶级的人告诉我,他们目前的生活现状。这部电影轻轻刺痛了我对未来的憧憬,让我反思我的现在、我的生存坏境,关注我们的政治经济体制。不能不说,它就像吸尘器一样,让我这粒小灰尘明白,我们以为的安全感从来都是自以为是,当你遭受欺骗的时候,你要不承受,要不就反抗,再不就让自己成为金字塔尖的那1%的像美国高盛的主管。
其实从来都知道这些,只是再一次展现在眼前时,从来没有料到现状如此触目惊心,如此规模之大,如此地不受控制。大部分都没觉察到,或许只有此时此刻,才会引起反思,金融危机造成的影响才会备受重视。
The other day I was watching Real Time. As usual, Bill and his panel - Arianna Huffington and Andrew Sorkin in this case - talked about how the Corporate America, especially those financial elites, rip off the hard-working middle class people and get away with it with tons of taxpayers' money in their pockets. As the heat mounted, it is, of course, inevitable to raise doubts about and criticize the existing system. Then, all of sudden, I was shocked, and partly amused, by how these spouts resemble what we have been preached throughout our education. Greed, exploitation, and ultimately the populist revolt. This type of rhetoric sounds no strange to us; for this is what we are expected, if not ordered, to believe in. And yet, to the American people, particularly the younger generation, it sounds just as exotic and remote as a fashionable historic curiosity.
There are more of these moments to find in Michael Moore's documentary, Capitalism: A Love Story. Jimmy Carter's presidential statement that "we are at a turning point in our history" in that "human identity is no longer defined by what one does, but by what one owns" called for the very same thing the Eight Honors and Eight Disgraces is intended to. The only difference here is that one has perished amid the laissez faire spree triggered by the president's successor, while another is ongoing in an emerging superpower experiencing an astounding economic growth and faced with increasingly polarized distribution.
Carter also rightly decried that "too many of us now tend to worship self-indulgence and consumption". Ironically enough, this is exactly where Ronald Reagan thrived. By cutting taxes by a enormous margin, by packing those ideas that Carter hated and warned against into the doctrine of capitalism and the almighty power of the free market, the Republican president created a robust consumption-driven economy and garnered tremendous popularity. Historically, this was also a significant period of what Walter R. Mead, an advisor to Henry Kissinger, described as the breakdown of the blue model. Union power declined, competition intensified - just as Michael Moore lamented in the film, it was not an easy time for everybody. However, the cosmetic served well. With new policies well implemented, economic index responded with great numbers. So did the stock market, so did the financial sector; and so people say of the economy and the president's legacy. Indeed, it was the best of times, it was the worst of times.
But this does not solve the moral problems incurred by the ever greater gap between the wealthy and the poor. In an electoral democracy, for a policy, or more precisely -- an ideology to become legitimate it has to promote the core ideas that have been deeply rooted in this nation ever since its foundation - well known as the "American dream" - which, in its simplest form, requires two most basic elements: freedom and equal opportunities. Of course, it is no difficulty to claim freedom in a capitalism for it is already a "free market", but the concept of "equal opportunities" is not an easy case. How could everyone be equal in a system in which more capital could be gained out of capital itself? How is deregulation supposed to promote equality when the ones with more wealth is granted with access to more influence, and hence even more wealth? This is where the economists, along with their terrifying-sounding jargons, weighed in. Drawing on one after another premises that are too good - and too simple - to be true, they derived elegant models functioning perfectly in equilibriums yet inherently inconsistent with reality. But politicians, as they always do, conveniently neglected those flaws in nature and with the help of speechwriters blended the pretty conclusions into their exciting orations. The "invisible hand", what a tempting yet handy idea - it's like finding the key to the ultimate mystery of the universe - sparing us the tedious thoughts of how our society and economy really work, develop, and interact with fast changing circumstances. Capitalism and the free market, as the Cold War ended in the collapse of the Soviet Union, soon earned their unchallengeable status in the realm of economic expertise. This, I firmly believe, is the ugly but real side of the truth: people blindly come to believe in those slogan-like theories not because of prudence, but because of laziness; for it is the one of the most common human nature of us to see what we want to see.
But, how about the immoral and unchristlike worship of "self-indulgence and consumption"? It indeed sounds like a righteous warning, doesn't it? Let me put this in relatively vague words for the sake of a bit wit here. When people see and hear of the media promotions of smoking elaborately plotted and sponsored by big evil tobacco companies, as depicted in Hollywood products, in either an upbraiding or a nostalgic way, they easily buy it, assuming that's what surely is bound to happen, as though the condescending liberal media elites just reclaimed their integrity out of blue. Nonetheless, contradictory to the common ground that government and politicians are evil, hypocritical, or, at best, incompetent, when it comes to massive political propaganda people easily get dismissive, disdainfully calling them conspiracies. Anyway, were those speculations to have been true, you have got to give applause to the gentlemen behind the curtain, for they can somehow manage to manipulate people to do and believe in things that are obviously against their own interests. It is truly a tour de force, works like magic.
Back to the film, and the ideology talk partly thanks to its title. It is amazing how frequently and strongly Michael Moore stress the term "socialism". And not in a Cold-War-minded way, but in a progressive and advocating way. So advocating that it proclaims socialism is the unfulfilled dream of FDR. So, how does the landscape really looks like in the US? Is it as biased as either side insists? Trying to answer that question, another popular liberal president, Jed Bartlet, would probably say, "Give me numbers." Fair enough. Let's take a look at them:
http://filer.blogbus.com/4598556/45985561268749559s.gifhttp://filer.blogbus.com/4598556/45985561268749552q.gifThis poll was conducted earlier this year. It shows that, significantly, though 58% of Americans still maintain a negative image of socialism, among Democrats and leaner a majority of people share a positive one, and that majority grows even bigger when it comes to liberals, topping the "supermajority" threshold at 61%.
Also underlined in the film is Barack Obama's ascendency in polls during the '08 presidential election, which Michael Moore arbitrarily attributed to the underlying socialism in his rhetoric and agenda. It is easy to commit the mistake of post hoc ergo propter hoc, but the exhilarated crowd was real and hard. Young people, with their compassion and idealism yet to fade, are known to be the main components of the liberal base. This hypothetical electoral map below demonstrates that fact convincingly well:
http://filer.blogbus.com/4598556/45985561268757624r.jpgThese results altogether illustrate a sharp contrast with that across the Pacific, where the pro-capitalism outrage amid the young is burgeoning seemingly as fast as the economic growth. The bottom line is that it is widely acknowledged that China's economy and growth model are in fact ill and flawed, but is capitalism the solution to all our conundrums? I am too often astounded by the extend to which some of our professors and pundits, who are supposed to think and analyze in a much more comprehensive way, appear so naive as to blame many problems on the markets not being open, free, and in essence capitalist enough. The contemporary history of the US has already showed the idealistic promises of capitalism that everyone shares an equal opportunity to work his way into the upper class are nothing but a fantasy; in reality, it is never in its purest form but other derivatives, namely, crony capitalism. Which does little good to the society as a whole but quite the opposite, creating even more inequality in the long run. In an economy that is strong and hence resilient to tentative turbulences so long as the marginal well-being stays positive, it might take decades for a bubble to burst. Nevertheless, in an over populated nation governed by a young regime dealing with various inherent social tensions, it could lead to catastrophe.
So, what does all this imply? Should we just entirely reject the Western philosophies as merely historical blunders? Of course not. To me the very point here is that we are bestowed - in an ironic way - with this dual perspective on the nature of human society, in terms of how social progressivism driven by different values eventually converge at promoting human equality and how dogmatism could be manipulated to impede that momentum and ultimately undermine our integrity. For a nation in the face of a seemingly unstainable economy, for a people shadowed by a wobbling ethical system, this is an utterly important issue.
Michael Moore对于美国,大概相当于台湾的李敖。欣赏的他们的原因也是一样,言论虽然极端,但是背后总是有一大堆数据和文件来佐证。何况现在的社会,太缺少这样的声音了。我猜导演也不把自己当成一个纯粹的电影工作者。而同样的,我们几乎不能用一般的标准来衡量这部电影。
作为一个金融工作者,我目击了两年半来市场神奇的变化。世界末日曾经来过。我们可以如此健忘,难怪历史一直重复。又或者你无知到都不曾感觉到世界末日来过。就好像开始工作之前我也对LTCM一无所知,对房地产市场毫无兴趣。如果你像我曾经那样无知,请看这部电影,你会知道一些你应该知道的事情。比方说雷曼兄弟的倒闭来自于同为犹太人投行的劲敌高盛在华尔街的散播谣言。比方说AIG被美国政府解救高盛丝毫没受金融危机影响反而比从前盈利更高的主要原因是高盛与美国政府高层的密切关系。就好像LTCM事件一样,为华尔街买单的是老老实实的交税人。
百分之一的人控制百分之九十五以上的财富,这就是资本主义,没有道德可言。从个人的角度,我们总是可以尽量保证自己不是最严重的受害者,但是总是有人会受到伤害。而制约伤害的方法真的是民主吗?
给了5颗星,是因为它的时代性,值得每个人去关注。
其实,我是摩尔大叔的粉丝,他之前的几部,我都看得津津有味。只是,从 "Bowling for Columbine" (2002), "Fahrenheit 9/11" (2004), "Sicko" (2007) 到这一部《资本主义:一个爱情故事》,我必须承认,大叔江郎才尽了。
大叔的那种有些幽默感的讽刺(让我称其作comical satire),我曾经非常喜欢。这一次,他又试图炮制一部comical satire, 只是不知是我厌倦了,还是这次大叔耍得水平不够,幽默好冷,讽刺方面也不具之前那种直刺心肺的力量。
可能年龄大些了,阅历多些了,就更能头脑清晰、对事物作出客观的判断,大叔的作品我现在看来,实在是过于偏激、煽情和挑斗,逻辑混乱又太把自己当回事。这部片子中又有一些他强行采访未果的镜头,让我有些忍俊不禁。也许,像有些豆友所指出的,大叔这次选择了过为宏大的题目,实在“螳臂当车”。
Michael Moore 富于自我审视和批判的精神,这一点也许比一般美国人强,但作为一个电影人,他的水准好像一直没有提高。这部影片但愿不是他电影生涯的最低点。
下次看到Michael Moore的新作,我会好好考虑到底要不要看。
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2011.9.25
其实还挺触目惊心的。最简单的一句话就是,买了房子之后尽早还贷款,因为美国银行已经改了法律条款,可以提高loan rate的。而且千万千万不要refinance ur house,不然落得个倾家荡产流离失所可就不是好玩儿的了。当然,除非你也想像片子中的老兄们听到的国会议员建议那样做,耍无赖就是不走。
其实当Obama当选之后导演的态度大转变就让我厌恶到不行。这总统这么厉害这么优秀,成效在哪里呢?我们怎么都还没有看见。最后争取自己权益的还不是咱们working class自己嘛?
我这一辈子是不想去美国的,老师在那里实在是没办法混,这一点看我在这里的美国同事们有多开心就知道了
最后的国际歌还挺那什么的~~
咱们工人有力量
片子本身还有些不够客观,依然带了太多的Michael Moore自身的观点,远远没有<Food Inc.>好。
最后说一句,可以看一看的,哪怕是抱着审视和怀疑的态度去看。
1、迈克·摩尔做小题目,比如911,或者医保问题,得心应手,这个题目太大,他自己也不明白或者是装糊涂,着实驾驭不了。2、前两部还好,这一部里摩尔的“社会行动”/个人秀看起来着实地臭傻逼。3、没解决的核心问题在于,为什么富人富穷人穷,以及片中现象如何形成,没有解释,只有仇富和煽动
plutonomy,资本主义能让你无所不能,你想为太阳申请专利吗。。把民主和资本主义对立是有问题的。。。麦克默你敢再激进点么
利用剪辑灌输自己观点,这一点上,他做的很好
an insane casino
一直挺喜欢Michael Moore讽刺的调调,这位老喜欢找茬的美国佬,应该觉得批评政府也是爱国的一种表现吧。
迈克摩尔是美国艾未未,除了他喜欢编造谎言之外,更大的区别还在于他生在了一个值得爱的国家。在我们这个无偿献血的地方,没有爱情故事,只有悲伤和愤怒。
没有在一个国家的理想与现实节节滑坡的惨象前一蹶不振,保持了积极的社会变革基调,仅就这一点便向Michael Moore致以崇高的敬意。不足是对解决问题的方法有所模糊,依然使用了“民主”这个模糊的概念。其中对Co-op的刻画极有启发,可继续展开。
大坏胖子著名搅屎棍Michael.Moore再次袭来!
胖子的表情!!
虽然我是个右派,但麦克摩尔这个大胖子总是能让我变得感性起来。
不管摩尔政治观点怎么样有无漏洞,当年如此支持奥巴马有没有被打脸,“独立党派”桑德斯现在变民主党是否尴尬等,他确实是个把娱乐和叙述结合得非常好的导演,适当插入各种表情包一样的段落令人怀疑他是否经常在油管看恶搞视频😂,事情讲清楚了,也并不卖惨或过度煽动。当然一部电影肯定是不够的
美国的可怕之处在于总有人能提出反对意见, 在良性循环中找到潜在的危险. 或许 Michael Moore 有点哗众取宠不招人喜欢. 反思国内, 我们的工会我们的权利在哪里?
摩尔是我见过当今最有社会洞见的导演,虽然很多地方有心无力,甚至方向偏颇,但仍然具有很大的社会意义,因为摸索是一个过程,试想如果全世界人民都能够清醒的辩证的去思考这个世界的运行,那么人类才会迅速的发展,苦难将会减少,社会合规律性不可违背,但历史任务需要做的就是调动人民的主观能动性…
这片子不是给平头百姓看的。
摩尔的人道主义关怀 - 区分capitalism & democracy. 资本主义是邪恶的, 只有民主是好的. 但是, 没有资本主义做基础的民主究竟是真正的民主吗? 纯粹的民主根底上只能是理想. 太多国家假民主却真贫穷. 效率与公平本身就是极难达成的平衡......
还以为有多谴责,结果也只是批判一下前几任政府,寄希望于奥巴马。我几乎要认为这是奥巴马的政治宣传片了。另:房屋被没收,难道就没有平民过度透支的恶习起作用?我看不见得。Pussy!纪录片带了政治目的,就成了一坨烂货。
麦胖果然是红色阵营派到西方的奸细,他老拍一些《新闻联播》最爱放的东西——即美国人民都生活在水深火热之中
片尾曲是摇滚版《国际歌》,观众起立鼓掌。估计中国人不会喜欢,因为他们爱的并不是美国,而是资本主义;Michael Moore爱的是美国,不是资本主义。
每次看完迈克摩尔的电影,想到的第一句话总是“中国人民此刻内牛满面”
哪种主义都不是百忧解